[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Altiverb’ers #30458

@Max wrote:

I would like to ask if Altiverb is heavy in CPU usage and when using multiple instances is better to use a separate PC.

Thanks a lot for any feedback…

Best,

Max

Hi Max,

I’ve personally found Altiverb to be quite efficient. The last couple of updates they’ve done have especially improved performance with multiple copies open. That said, this is pretty anecdotal, and you may find users who’ve done more of a performance benchmark.

How many copies of Altiverb did you want to run? My subjective opinion is that a separate PC for reverb doesn’t make a lot of sense… but what hardware are you currently running?

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Basses A leg LP click in F0 almost 6 sec in #33171

@robh wrote:

And here’s the other one.

[attachment=0:11xsitbf]Basses A Leg L.nki.zip[/attachment:11xsitbf]
Rob

Hey Rob,

Thanks so much for these! We are reminded every day how amazing and generous the LASS community is!

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Cellos C legato long note cut off (24-bit only) #33234

@robh wrote:

Here is the mp3 and MIDI file. This demo file is two notes I picked at random, but it does happen no matter which notes are chosen.
It is most noticeable when the mod wheel is around 23 or lower. This file was created with One instance of Kontakt and only the Cello C leg LP Speed P patch loaded.

I’m on Logic 8 on a PPC dual 2.7 with 4GB RAM. OSX 10.4.11

Rob

Hey Rob,

Thanks a lot for this. Upon further testing with your MIDI file I can reproduce this error using Kontakt 3.5 in Logic but strangely not K4. We’ll have a look into this.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Cellos C legato long note cut off (24-bit only) #33232

@robh wrote:

I have found that when using any legato patch for the C cellos, if two notes are legato and the last note is long (greater than 6 seconds) at a low Mod wheel setting – probably under 30 – then the long note gets cut off, and when the note actually finishes, you will hear the release sample. This does not happen with the 16-bit patches, only the 24-bit patches. I also checked the A and B cellos, but they are ok.

Just to confirm, this is with the new 1.1 version.

For anyone else who has come up with this problem, the ‘quick fix’ I use right now is to make those two notes non-legato.

Rob

Hey Rob,

Thanks for the report. Strangely, I’m having difficulties reproducing this here. I’ll keep trying, but would it be possible to send a MIDI file containing just the sequence that is causing this problem? Also, your system specs (and sequencer/host) would help.

Thanks,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Purchased new slave computer…A couple of questions #33231

@JamesIII wrote:

Hello again friends,

I decided to purchase a new Mac Pro Octo-Core (Nehelem) with 12 Gig of Ram instead of the PC from Vision DAW. I’d like to get an SSD drive for my “sample” drive since there have been rave reviews from those using them. That being said, can I get by with the regular 7200 RPM HD for my main system drive, and one SSD for my “Sample” drive, or do I need my “system” drive to be SSD too? Not sure if it makes a difference. Thanks!!!

James

Hey James,

While an additional SSD system drive will certainly make your apps open faster (and your computer boot faster) it won’t have an impact on audio performance unless you start streaming from the system drive (not recommended). That said, if I had the dough I’d run an SSD system drive.

Hope that helps a bit.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: NEW USER-Can’t find: esp Leg #33215

@christof wrote:

Thank you!

I have to say that I am impressed by the great support and fast help.

I ordered LASS on sunday here in Vienna,and today, wednesday evening I could send a new cue to a client, containing LASS…
Thanks!!

It’s a great pleasure to support the LASS community!

I really enjoyed listening to the music on your website.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: NEW USER-Can’t find: esp Leg #33213

@christof wrote:

Hello,
I received my copy of LASS today, and I have to say-WOW-what a library!!

One thing is just not clear:
In the users guide I read about Esp Leg patches, but I can’t find them in the Kontakt browser, all I see are Esp sus patches.

Did something go wrong with my installation, did I loose the Espressivo Legato, portamento and glissando intervals?
[attachment=0:2jyq1qa2]screenshot.tiff[/attachment:2jyq1qa2]

Any help is welcome!
Thanks,

Hi Christof,

Welcome to the forums. Very glad to hear you are enjoying LASS!

Don’t worry… you’re not missing anything. The patch-matrix in the manual refers to Esp. Leg. patches, but on your computer they are labeled as just Leg.

Hope that helps!

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Handling Lass (methods and aproaches) #33017

@givemenoughrope wrote:

I’m doing the Program Changes method across 6 midi channels in Kontakt for each full section (all divisi section and FC). Couldn’t I just duplicate those instruments on channels 7 through 12 for an additional layering option and not use any more RAM? Any reason not to do this? I doubt I’ll need to triple layer anything within LASS.

Sure! There’s absolutely no reason not to do this. There will most likely be a slight increase in RAM usage in Kontakt, but it should be very small. The samples certainly won’t get loaded twice, but if you watch your Activity Monitor you’ll probably see a few extra megs get loaded up for zone information/DFD/scripts… this memory won’t show up in KMS, but in your host/sequencer.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Dropouts on VEP & LASS on XP slave #33197

@chaspol wrote:

Sorry, I misread the window: It was the DISK meter red light only & barely any activity on the CPU meter. Also, even if the note doesn’t cut out, the CPU meter will blink red at about 1 1/2 seconds in.

These are not identical systems, but about the same performance; one was used as a Cubase “slave” & the other, (the problem child) as a Gigastudio.

This problem is with only one LASS patch loaded. It even happens using the mouse keyboard locally.

It does not happen with other non-LASS patches in Kontakt.

I did de-frag the drive (not that that would really help) & now I am doing an error check on the drive. it is about 60% full.

Thanks,

Charley

Hmm… if it’s the disk meter that’s clipping there’s a chance that it’s a hardware problem with the sample drive. I’ve seen this scenario before with older drives. Could you try moving LASS temporarily to a different drive (even if it’s the system drive) and give it another shot?

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Dropouts on VEP & LASS on XP slave #33195

@chaspol wrote:

Hi,
I have 2 re-purposed XP P4 3.2GHz PCs w/2 Gig of ram each, both controlled by a Mac Pro 8 core & Logic 9.1. One of the PCs is fine, but the other will not play more than a note or 2 of LASS without cutting the note off after about one second. All of my other libraries work fine in the same Kontakt player going through VEP. The Kontakt CPU meter shows only a red peak light (and no other reading) when the notes cut off.

ANy ideas?

Thanks,

Charley

Hi Charley,

Welcome to the forums!

So the hardware on both systems is identical? If this is the case then it sounds like either a problem of software setup or network setup. It could also potentially be a bad sample drive, although I’m not sure anything would be streaming correctly if that were the case.

Have you tried starting with something simple to test… for instance… load one patch of LASS (and nothing else) into the computer that is having the problem. Start in a blank template in L9 and just connect the one instance. Do you still have the problem? It’s important to try and isolate the problem as much as possible. If it still occurs without anything else going on you can rule out some stuff. The fact that the Kontakt CPU meter is getting hit makes it sound like it’s a problem on the computer itself, but you never know.

Let me know how it goes.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Screen Shots of your Hosts #32994

@audiophobic wrote:

Great! Thanks! Does the use of Midi over lan indicate that Andrew is running his instances of Kontakt on a separate machine from his DAW?

Yes, I believe so in this case… but I’ll let Andrew speak for himself.

BTW, you can also use Bidule as a host inside your main DAW by either running it as a Rewire slave to your sequencer, or by creating a MIDI/audio loopback. I used the second method here for a long while with much success before switching to VE Pro.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31650

@Gary Eskow wrote:

Gabor… what’s the distinction between banks labelled with P (portamento) and P_?

Gary

Hey Gary,

The 16-bit instruments are labeled with that underscore to differentiate then from the 24-bit ones.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31648

Hi David,

OK, so I’ve been playing with LASS for one day and I’m BLOWN away – I use it in logic and it’s simply beautiful.

I’m very glad you are enjoying it! Thanks for these compliments!

I own Kontakt 3.5 (haven’t U/D yet but I will soon. I must say that my kontakt knowledge is the weak link in my chain and I can’t find a company offering Kontakt training videos / tutorials like macprovideo or groovebox etc…

I believe Macprovideo does cover Kontakt (although I’ve not seen this myself) as part of their ‘Complete NI Komplete’ video series. http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/nativeinstruments102

I’m used to using VSL where I would keyswitch from one articulation to another, but is that sensible with this library? (I’ve downloaded the script and the banks, so maybe that’s a way forward..).

I know I may sound like a broken record here (from our emails) but it really depends heavily on how you want to work. These user supplied banks/scripts will allow you to function similarly to how you are accustomed to working with VSL, and that may not be a bad thing. On the other hand, there are others (like myself) who prefer everything on its own MIDI track.

Since you describe yourself as a MIDI orchestrator, I can see it going two ways. With keyswitches you have the nuisance of seeing those notes show up in your notation, but you have the advantage of keeping to one instrument per track (which certainly is good for notation). On the other hand, when you separate everything out on separate tracks you won’t get those extra low notes on your score, but you do have to compile separate tracks to create a score. One final option is to use banks but switch articulations with patch changes. That way you can keep to one instrument per track and not have any extraneous notes. The downside is that some find patch changes less fun to deal with. Another downside of using banks is that it makes it impossible to layer different articulations on the same instrument unless you load the bank more than once.

Are there any logic users out there able to say… right… step one.. make a multi output instrument … step two, create (x) many auxes and so on until there is a sensible workflow for how an orchestral LASS template may look in logic?

I can tell you how I do it, and you’ll find lots of users here who do it differently. This was my basic setup procedure.

(1) create 5 new 16-part multi-timbral audio instruments and instantiate an instance of Kontakt (I use only the stereo version) on each.
(2) I devote each Kontakt to one section (vlns1,vlns2,vla,celli,cbs)
(3) I have an EQ and IR Reverb loaded as inserts on each of my 5 Kontakts
(4) I load separate div. sections on sep. MIDI channels, so 16 patches per Kontakt
(5) Right now for leg/port/gliss I am loading the 24-bit speed lite patches. I also load the spicc. trills and pizz samples, BTW.
(6) In the environment I have created a simple MIDI instrument that can simultaneously address all div. sections for each articulation. This is helpful if I want to quickly write a unis. line. I can also put all 4 div. sections in record mode as an alternative

Again, this is just my workflow. I’m actually using Vienna Ensemble Pro here, but the setup isn’t really any different if you are loading natively.

The new computer and “toys” (euphonix, EWI, loads of software) arrive tomorrow and I hate the idea of setting up an interim system and then doing it all again. I’d rather take some downtime, make a working system and then test drive / modify.

Hope you have lots of fun! I can tell you from personal experience, my template has never left beta… it’s always a work in progress.

Sincerely,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Screen Shots of your Hosts #32991

@audiophobic wrote:

HI Andrew, I’m hearing a lot of talk about bidule and your screenshot looks intruiging! But for those of us who haven’t yet tinkered with budule, could you explain a little moreabout your screenshot?

Cheers!

Andy

Hey Andy,

I’m not Andrew (obviously) but I can tell you about the Bidule screenshot you see. Bidule is a ‘modular’ environment, which looks and sounds a lot scarier than it actually is. The screen shot above shows the following:

1. At the top and bottom of the screen Andrew has his audio cards represented (Labeled as ‘ASIO’ because they are running on a Windows machine and Hamerfall because he is using an RME card). The little boxes below and above these main boxes are the inputs and outputs for the card.

2. Below that are MIDI Inputs (MIDIOverLAN, in this case) and they have their outputs cabled into instances of Kontakt. There are two rows of this.

3. Below the Kontakts are the audio outputs which are cabled into his audio card’s outputs (to come back into his main DAW).

As a host, Bidule essentially works much the same way as a sequencer except that instead of choosing things from menus, you create these modular boxes and manually cable things where you want to go. There are a billion other things you can do with Bidule, including some really serious audio and MIDI processing, but it works very well as a AU/VST host as well. FWIW, Bidule also will run as a Rewire Slave.

I hope that helps a bit!

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31640

@Gary Eskow wrote:

Ok, this is what I’ve discovered… thanks in large part to my friend Greg Ondo, resident Cubase genius at Steinberg! I tried setting up a midi modifier to cover only the lowest octave. NG- as soon as I touched ANY parameter (setting the range to only the lowest note on the keyboard, for example) the midi file would not play back through the keyswitching bank.

Next stop was to create a MIDI input transformer for the entire keyboard, a slight drag in that it moves up the range of the instrument as well as the switches, but that’s ok. The initial transform function was set to offset by +12 steps— but it worked in reverse, setting everything, including the notes where the samples sit, DOWN AN OCTAVE!

Creating a transform the other way (-12) did the trick.

Can somebody explain why this worked? Greg could only laugh!!!

Well, I’m glad to hear you got this worked out, although I’m not sure I totally understand why it worked either… obviously something was going wrong, either in your keyboard, MIDI interface, or in Cubase. If adjusting the octaves in Cubase made the difference it sounds to me like the problem may have arisen in software (either a Kontakt script or a MIDI setup). Were you doing any other kind of MIDI transforms?

Either way, I’m glad this worked out.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31637

@Gary Eskow wrote:

Many thanks for your work! A question: my ancient Yamaha KX88 is still a good controller (albeit with extremely limited onboard controllers). However, although all of the samples are triggered at the proper octaves, the keyswitching information you’ve provided is an octave off— gone from the left side of the keyboard, with the exception of the lowest A, A# and B, which trigger empty slots in the banks you’ve provided. Is there a get around for this?

Thanks again!

Gary

Wow Gary, that sounds pretty strange, unless I’m misunderstanding what’s going on. Could you have zones set up on the kx88? I did a few kx88 setups, but that was long ago, and I remember the manual being particularly annoying.

If you have a MIDI monitor in your DAW could you check to make sure that the lowest octave on your keyboard is sending the correct notes?

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31635

@gvalasek wrote:

I have just seen that such a multi has been already posted in this topic, here’s the link to it: here. Keyswitches are on the very lowest 2 octaves, which gives you 24 slots to use.

Hey gvalesek,

Thanks for your amazing contributions!

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: LiquidSonics Reverberate #33173

For a low priced one, check out the free demo of CSR Classic Studio Reverb from IK Multimedia. Tons of control over the verb, great sound, even has a lot of modulation control which is the trademark of reverbs like the Lexicon.

I haven’t used Reverberate, either, but I can second this IK CSR Reverb suggestion. As far as inexpensive non-convolution-reverbs go, this is one of my favorites for sure. I’ve also heard high praise for Eos by Audiodamage, though I haven’t used it personally.
http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD023

For convolution, it’s still hard to beat Altiverb, but a good IR in the Kontakt convolution insert still sounds good to my ears.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Basses A leg LP click in F0 almost 6 sec in #33168

Okay, I can confirm the click in the Basses A leg L and Basses A leg LP patches in F0 and F#0. I’ll pass this along to Andrew.

Both the Basses A Leg LP Speed P, and Basses A Leg LP Speed P Lt are unaffected and can be used.

Thanks again for this report. Good catch!

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

[Sebastian K]

in reply to: Basses A leg LP click in F0 almost 6 sec in #33167

@Mr. Anxiety wrote:

Sorry for this, but it appears there is a click in the F0 sample of Basses A leg LP at the almost 6 sec point.
Tried loading and re-loading to verify, it always happens.

Let me know when you can sort out.

Nice library!

Mr. A.

Hey Mr. Anxiety,

Welcome to the forums! Thank you for this bug report. I’ll take a look and see if I can reproduce this here.

Great username.

Best,
Sebastian Katz
audiobro support

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