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  • audiophobic
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    Hi Sebastian, thanks for responding!

    Apologies for not being terribly clear – yes, it’s the second point you make that I’m looking to recreate in LASS3 (a full ensemble)- I’m sending a LS 2.5 Multi to you comprising of Vlns B, Vlas B, Vcs B and Cbs B that will show you what I have been doing. So four instruments in one multi all on ch1 with advanced AA rules determining how the different chord voicings are allocated. In LASS3, if I use the “main” patches I then struggle to get the AA rules so that that only the desired A, B or C sections are playing – I’ve tried setting each instrument to “per voice” “solo” and assign the AA so that the (for example) vlnsB are always note1, the vlasB always note 2, vcsB note 3 and cbsB always note 4, however I always get notes also being played by A and C. I’ll send the LASS3 multi for this as well which should make things clearer!

    Thanks again

    Andy

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    in reply to: Mind Control #33374

    Hey All,

    Only just saw this thread – I’ve been playing with Mind Control for a few weeks now, specifically for LASS and it is indeed a really useful tool. To answer the specific concern raised in this thread – that you can only play one sound at a time within a Kontakt Program Bank – MC does solve this by simply requiring you to load multiple banks. The nature of the Mulit-script is that it will play whatever you throw at it. You just stack up your banks on the same midi channel. Mind Control will play *all* banks on slot one when told to do so (or slot 2, 3 depending on what condtions are triggered). So you can have multiple patches playing from Slot one (across Banks 1,2,3.._ OR by cunningly leaving certain slots empty you can slot together a jigsaw of articulations. To illustrate:

    In my current LASS Mind Control Template I have setup MC to allow me to change progarms based on a combination of where I have my pitch wheel set (middle – leg, fully down – Stacc, fully up- trem) as well as using the drum-pads on my Axiom keyboard to select other things (Primary mode using pitchwheel as described above, “stacc only” mode which uses playing speed to randonly switch between Stacc and Spicc , Sordino mode and Non-espr mode). All fine and good, and all doable from just one K4 Bank.

    But I’m difficult. for me I find that the short articulations naturally sound more “airy” than the leg sounds and therefore, when played through the same reverb settings sound too big/wet, which for me disturbs the normal flow of a line. Solution is obvious, route the short arts to a different FX bus with shorter ‘verb settings. Problem is Kontakt banks only allows *one* audio routing per bank.

    But using Mind Control’s ability to control multiple banks I now have:
    Bank1 (channel1): Leg on slot one, *nothing* on slot2 or 3, pizz on slot4.
    Bank2 (channel1): *nothing* on slot1, Stacc on slot2, Spicc on slot 3, *nothing* on slot 4.

    Bank1 routes to my “Legato” audio out (and from there to my “legato” verb on Cubase FX channel1)
    Bank2 routes to my “short” audio out (and from there to my “short” verb on FX channel2)

    Now when I switch between leg (pitch wheel central) and stacc (ptich wheel down) MindControl just goes from Slot1 to Slot2 (and three randomly) *on any bank set to channel1*.

    Any of that make sense?

    Cheers for now!

    Andy

    audiophobic
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    Glad to hear someone’s having good results with VST Expression! I’ve been trying to get my VST XP setup running all summer and have just given up with it – too many problems with particular notes hanging on long arts and footswitches hanging on after short arts. Dedersen – maybe you could post up your expression file?

    Either way I’ve gone back to working in Program Banks using Transformer for program switching (which cured my previous issues) – but I’ve also just got hold of “Mind Control” by OrangeTreeSamples which sits as a Mulit-script in K4 and allows you to switch between bank programs based upon things like velocity, playing speed, etc (or even combinations of all). It works great in “simple” libs (like RA or Gold) but obviously there’s quite a challenge in getting it to play nicely with AA and ART! I shall report back in detail once I’ve delved deeper…

    Andy

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    @gvalasek wrote:

    So basically it acts as if the sustain pedal wasn’t released? What if you release the sustain pedal first and then release the notes and go back to the default articulation? By the description it looks like as if only the note-offs gotten to the staccato, while the sustain off didn’t make it (but it can very well be the other way around, if you get stuck notes check out the Kontakt GUI, if you can see your chord’s keys pressed on the Kontakt piano, then it’s more likely that the note offs are the ones that didn’t get through).

    The E4 being the “trigger” sounds strange, that note has no significance in any of the scripts, so it is not treated anything special. Maybe that is used by the XPMaps for something?

    I think what’s happening in some cases is that I *am* hanging onto the sustain pedal when changing from a stacc to something else using the XPMap (without realising!). As I often have several sections selected at the same time it’s easy to miss that. When I force myself to release the perdal and notes before changing it doesn’t carry the pedal over.

    The stuck E4 thing however is still occuring at times.. I’m going to have to look really closely to nail down what’s going on..

    audiophobic
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    Typicall, went to replicate the E4 stuck problem today and can I? No stuck E4 today. But just to clarify: E4 would stick on the few sustained patches I tried (Leg, Leg P&G etc) but not on the short arts . This would occur with both AA and non AA (with no sustain pedal). As soon as I unloaded and reloaded the Cubase Xp Map the stuck note behaviour stopped. But as I said, today all seems OK.

    I am however still getting regular sustain-stuck-on issues with ART: After finishing a passage (sustain up, notes off) the pattern continues. Because I’m using XP Maps, the default behaviour when you stop playing is to return to the “root” expression (in my case Leg), which means that to kill the stuck ART pattern I have to keyswitch the stacc articulation, depress the sustain pedal once and the pattern stops.

    Andy

    audiophobic
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    in reply to: IR’s and Tails #33224

    It does, thanks!

    audiophobic
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    in reply to: IR’s and Tails #33222

    Hi Andrew – quick question about loading IRs into separate instances of a conv plugin – how do you go about setting up the “tail” instance on your setup? At the moment I’m just loading an ER into the first (Say LASS E) and the tail into the second (LASS Tail C), but I suspect I need to be adding some kind of predelay into the tail instance as presumably the tail will get applied too soon? A little clairifcation would really help my muddled brain.

    (BTW, I’ve managed to get Wizoo running fine on W7 64bit using j-bridge)

    Cheers!

    Andy

    audiophobic
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    Great! Thanks! Does the use of Midi over lan indicate that Andrew is running his instances of Kontakt on a separate machine from his DAW?

    audiophobic
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    HI Andrew, I’m hearing a lot of talk about bidule and your screenshot looks intruiging! But for those of us who haven’t yet tinkered with budule, could you explain a little moreabout your screenshot?

    Cheers!

    Andy

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    Thanks Steve, except that I should point out the error in my previous post – the ART pattern keys aren’t actually freed up as I’ll still be triggering Bass notes. So it looks like I’m going to need a dedicated MIDI button-control surface!

    Andy

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    I’ve gone down the keyswitched bank route as well, except I’m using the control buttons that run above my Axiom61 keyboard to trigger the changes rather than the keys – this way I can layer up sections for quick sketches without changing a patch just because I want to play a bass pedal on C0 (or whatever). It wasn’t too hard to adapt the Cubase-midi transform feature to work off a control change rather than a note change. It also means I can standardise patch-changes for *all* my sections regardless of how they’re pitched.

    Plus it also keeps your lower keys free to trigger ART patterns!

    Andy

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    Thanks Andrew, good tips. I agree it’d be great to get us sharing our EQ/Mixing setups here as well as all of the excellent articulation/template discussions going on.

    I also need to go away and spend some time reading up on early and late reflections in reverbs – something I’m quite vague about at the moment!

    Cheers!

    Andy

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