[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31562

@nordkrog wrote:

@gvalasek wrote:

Are you using the full version of Kontakt? You should be able to edit the slots in all of the banks with the full Kontakt, I don’t know if there are restrictions in the Kontakt Player in that regard.

BTW, there’s a thread about how keyswitching can be done in Logic if you are interested in alternatives: http://audiobro.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=188

Thanks a lot for your quick reply
No, I’m using the player (3.5). It should be possible to demo the full version, but I have no idea how to… (yes I have been searching the manuals)… Maybe I should just go ahead and buy Kontakt 4?

I saw the other thread and downloaded the Logic project, but it must have been created in Logic 9 – I couldn’t use it in Logic 8. The update to 9 is lying here on my desk collecting dust, but there are way too many performance issues with 9 (even 9.01) so I’m gonna wait. 8.02 is rock solid here

Unfortunately I have no idea where to switch that, sometimes NI can hide buttons pretty well so don’t give up! (Make sure to check the About box too, maybe it’s there) Though even if you find that it means that you are restricted to 30 minutes of usage so that may not be a solution either way. So maybe the best would be K4

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31560

You are welcome Rob!

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31558

Are you using the full version of Kontakt? You should be able to edit the slots in all of the banks with the full Kontakt, I don’t know if there are restrictions in the Kontakt Player in that regard.

BTW, there’s a thread about how keyswitching can be done in Logic if you are interested in alternatives: http://audiobro.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=188

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31555

The 16bit ones for composing, the 24bit patches for renders (I just drag the 24 bit banks over the 16 bit counterparts). If you don’t tweak the legato settings and other stuff it works just fine though when you do so it can be a bit time consuming.

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31553

The sizes go like this with the 16 bit version of banks (I think I’m on default DFD buffer sizes):

all basses: 0.9GB
all celli: 1.17GB
all violas: 1.48
all violins: 1.85GB

So in total it’s around 5.4GB of RAM. The 24 bit banks have a roughly 20-25% bigger allocation need so they end up having around 7GB but if you replace the Speed patches with normal ones the 24bit guys won’t take much more space than the 16 bit ones.

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31551

Ups, I skipped the VE Pro part at first glance, unfortunately I’m not familiar with it. Check if Kontakt itself is doing the routing the way it’s supposed to do it, maybe there’s a problem in that step. Maybe the others who have more experience with it can chime in.

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31549

Do you mean the different Kontakt audio outputs? Have you created the new outputs (on the outputs panel that comes up with F2) and set the Kontakt patches to them or you have a different problem with this?

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31547

If I get it right you want to dedicate different instances of Kontakt to the different instruments, each instance of Kontakt would host all the sections of that instrument, right? That sounds OK to me.

If you want to split sections up between different Kontakt instances you can do a little trick to spare memory with putting the first and second violins in the same Kontakt instance so you can shave off half the memory they would cost had they been sitting in separate Kontakt instances.

So 4 instances of Kontakt would be enough with this layout:

1st instance for basses – 4/5 banks on 4/5 different midi channels (Full Mixes being the fifth of the “4/5”)
2nd instance for celli – 4/5 banks and channels again
3rd instance for violas – 4/5 banks and channels again
4th instance for the first and second violins – 8/10 banks and channels

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31545

You are welcome

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31543

You don’t need to use special Nuendo features for keyswitching if you are using the CPC and keyswitcher multi as a starting point. Simply download it, extract the multi file from it, load it up into Kontakt and start dragging in the banks I’ve posted in this thread.

One part of the scripting in that multi will transform the second lowest octave’s notes into program change messages, while Nickie’s CPC script part will keep the CC value’s consistent among the slots (if you switch from the LP patch to sordino the CC1 and all other CC-s will be transmitted to the new articulation for smooth transition).

But there are other ways to do keyswitching in Nuendo, I think Andrew and the other Nuendo users can help with that.

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS & LOGIC-Keyswitching & CC re-assign tool #31350

@Versamina wrote:

Hey LHall.
I hope you don’t mind me posting it here-It was a lifesaver for me and i thought it might help other LassLogicKeyswitchers…
There is a nice looking alternative here http://www.audiobro.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=221&p=1340&hilit=cpcandkeyswitcher#p1340
But i couldn’t get it to work consistently(this may be my fault) I found that sometimes it went to the wrong patch-the advantage of this would be that you could see the instrument on your arrange page…

Hope you enjoy LASS as much as i do!!.

Ray

If you know a reproducable way to achieve the mis-switches I can try to fix that but so far it works OK for me – though I’m only using keyswitches with this, no PCs. Maybe there’s something wrong with the latter.

And have fun with LASS LHall!

[gvalasek]

in reply to: Kontakt 4 Lossless Sample Compression #31390

I think that won’t be solvable on the end-user part of things because the encrypted libraries are not supposed to be edited on the user’s computer but hopefully I’m wrong.

On a slightly offtopic note, a pretty neat stuff in K4 is it’s dynamic unloading and reloading of sample groups: it could reduce the number of patches in LASS hence it’d make life somewhat easier for Andrew when it comes to updating

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31539

Oh, I see what you mean! I have no idea why did that happen, I didn’t change the pan positions. As far as I can see all the patches are reset panning-wise so maybe the easiest to fix this is to set the pan position of the whole bank.

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31537

I think the first chairs were not recorded in the section’s place but directly from front, that’s why there is always a panning on the FC patches while the section patches themselves are in the default 0 pan position.

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31535

You are welcome! Kontakt needs some exploration to find out how things happen in it but luckily it has an improvement rate so hopefully the quirks we need to get used to will decrease as the version numbers grow

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31532

Just go to “Save as…” and Kontakt will know that you are saving a bank – it doesn’t need a separate save option like the multis

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31530

@rJames wrote:

I’ve downloaded the banks. Thanks a ton!

But, I’d like to change them to suit my needs.

Whenever I drag a patch into a different bank (like the spiccs into 9) some or all of the banks don’t make sound any more. It works great as it is.

I also cannot build my own. When I drag something to 001, it works. By the time I have a few articulations in the Kontakt banks, some of them don’t make sound anymore.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

That’s a problem with banks in K3. You have to play a note for all of the loaded instruments in the slots or else they’ll go mute as soon as a new slot is populated. So when building a bank from scratch you’ll always need to play a note of the latest loaded instrument. At least I couldn’t find another workaround of this.

Luckily this is fixed in K4.

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31527

I’m not sure, I guess there are 2 octaves below the 88key controller’s lowest not so you’ll have to transpose your controller down 2 octaves to reach the KS-es – in that long keyswitching/banking thread we talked about that a bit. But since you are using keyrange transform – if I understand correctly that expression map thing – you can simply select a suitable portion of your keyboard and let Cubase send that octave’s data as the -2nd octave/whichever you want to put the ART patterns.

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31525

Four hands for MIDI keyboardist!

I made a version of the CPCandKeswitcher where the keyswitches start from the lowest octave (MIDI note 0, Kontakt C-2 as in minus 2), it can be downloaded from here: CPCandKeyswitcher_KSonLowest – I figured it’s easier than to reassign all the ART patterns. BTW, that reassignment works fine for me both with the midi keyboard and the Kontakt keyboard on the bottom of the screen

[gvalasek]

in reply to: LASS banks for all sections #31521

@Rob Elliott wrote:

2. I want to spread LASS over two puters (Master and one new i7 PC) – what to do with the ART – short articulations. They pick up the bpm from the Master, correct? Should I install ALL samples on both machines and run as following as a rule

Master – vlns / Db (plus ALL section’s short ART files)

Slave – violas / cellos

What do you think? Any issue with copy protection issues?

As far as I can see the ART indeed gets the tempo from the Kontakt master (the one that can be switched on/off with F4) and it adopts to the current tempo without a problem. So if the Kontakt on the slave receives the tempo adjustments the short articulation’s ARTing should be working fine there too but mind you, I don’t have any experience with slave machines so this is an “ideally it should work” kind of speculation only.

The license should cover any kind of split as long as you don’t want to activate LASS on more than 2 computers so there shouldn’t be any copy protection issues no matter how you chose to spread and split LASS on those two machines.

I haven’t tried VEPRO yet so I don’t know if there are any glitches with the keyswitcher script. If anyone encounters them I can try to fix it but “ideally” it should be working fine though noone can know for sure what will start a havoc

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