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  • robjohn99
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    Ah – so even if I have (for example) 4 separate Kontakt instruments to cover all First Violins (1 for FC with all of the articulations on separate banks, plus the same for A, B, and C, respectively), and each Kontakt instrument is set to a different MIDI channel, as long as I record-enable the no. of these 4 instruments’ corresponding tracks in the Logic arrange window that I want to use, the Auto-Arrange will figure out the rest? And I presume that the point of retaining different MIDI channels is precisely to be able to enable this sort of control over size for each string section? (just want to make sure I follow you!)
    – robjohn

    robjohn99
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    Much thanks! So the approach I detailed makes sense in terms of properly implementing Auto Arrange, etc?
    Best!
    -robjohn

    robjohn99
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    With keys (sorry! :-))
    – robjohn

    robjohn99
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    Very helpful – thanks again!
    – D.D. Jackson

    robjohn99
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    One more question (!) You say that your method results in you having 5 separate Kontakt instantiations for running LASS total. Does this mean that you put all the articulations you need for a given instrument (such as First Violin) in ONE instantiation – something like this?:
    Kontakt First Instance:
    FIRST VIOLINS:
    Legato (solo) – Midi Ch 1
    Legato (A) – Ch 2
    Legato (B) – Ch 3
    Legato (C) – Ch 4
    Short (solo) Ch 5
    Short (A) – Ch 6
    Short (B) – Ch 7
    Short (C) – Ch 8
    (etc) for all First Violin articulations you want to have quick access to, and then you do the same for the other strings?

    Just want to make sure I’m clear! (I’ve also never ventured above 16 stereo channels in a given Kontakt instance, but presume with your method you must get into much higher numbers/instance and use midi ports a,b,c…etc?)

    Best and thanks again –
    – D.D. Jackson

    robjohn99
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    ‘m a Logic user myself, and what I tend to do is separate sections by MIDI channel. When I do want to control all sections simultaneously I just put them all in record mode and have at it (you can also create an instrument in the environment that will address all sections on a single track). As you may already know, this will create the MIDI I record as a region as well as aliases of that MIDI region on the adjacent tracks. That way, I can edit the original recording and affect all sections at once, or I can turn aliases into real copies and adjust my performances individually. In addition, this still gives me the freedom to write divisi or record in separate unis. lines for variation in performance. It may not be as clean as having one track per section, but you gain so much more flexibility in both writing and mixing.

    Just so that I understand your intriguing approach: you’re saying (please correct me if I’ve misunderstood!):
    – in Logic you create a multi-timbral instrument, creating multiple Logic Arrange tracks all belonging to the same instance, with the first resulting Arrange track assigned to Midi Ch 1, the 2nd to Midi Ch 2 (etc)
    – on the first track you instantiate a Kontakt Instance (do you do 16 x 1 stereo multi-output?)
    – in the Kontakt instance, you load in the solo, A, B, and C versions of the same (for example) First Violin legato articulations, with the Solo version assigned to Midi ch 1; A to midi ch 2 (etc) (do you assign outputs within Kontakt all to 1-2, or to 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, etc.?)
    – you repeat the above track-creation method for each additional individual articulation you want to have quick access to for the First Violins (I presume with a new instantiation of Kontakt?)
    – you repeat all of the above for the Second Violins, Violas, Celli, etc. (resulting in a separate Logic Arrange track for not only each articulation of a given string section such as First Violin, but for each sub-section (solo/A/B/C) of the First Violins.
    – to record all the First Violin legato articulations at once: in the Logic arrange window, you record enable all the required tracks, and record to create the main midi data plus aliases, and then you solo/mute edit, convert as needed to create divisis, etc. for that individual First Violin legato part.

    Is this correct?

    Final question :-): Should I really “hold off” in trying to optimally set things up (ie. is the “exciting news” to which you referred truly right around the bend?) (I’m excited!)

    By the way, you should definitely check out the new edition of Virtual Instruments Magazine (available only as a pdf) – it has a rave review of LASS and features it on the cover (including a screenshot).

    Thanks again for the info!
    D.D. Jackson

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