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in reply to: General LASS 2.0, Sords and New LASS 3 Integration Question #84471

Edit:

Actually – Can I still use LASS 3 with Kontakt 6? I can’t run Kontakt 7 on my mac.

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in reply to: Problematic Intonation LASS Sords #52679

Well, if anyone’s interested here is a version prior to recording a Stroh Violin/Viola for the project which had the troublesome intonation bit in it. The viola in the mock-up running through distortion is actually the LASS viola first chair which will be replaced on monday….so if it sounds funny that’s why. The Strings are all LASS Sords.

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in reply to: Problematic Intonation LASS Sords #52676

Here’s the fixed passage. You can still hear it’s a bit awkward, but with a combination of tuning the sample and blending with the B desks this is acceptable. In context it’s fine. It’s going to get a little sweetening too which will help.

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in reply to: Problematic Intonation LASS Sords #52675

Sure I’ll post something in a day or two…the track is ready for stemming anyway.

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in reply to: Problematic Intonation LASS Sords #52673

Ha ha!

Touché.

It’s not fully fixed but it’s fixed enough.

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in reply to: Problematic Intonation LASS Sords #52671

Well I DON’T think (emphasis on “think” as in I am not certain that I am right and you are wrong) it can be phasing because one of the patches I had tuned differently to the other, and it only affected a couple of notes. If it had been phasing I would expect it to affect more notes and those notes I was having problems with ought not be phasing if I had set up different tuning.

I think that the different intonation of the different desks makes for less coherence and thus the impression of greater consonance.

As I say, while I am doubtful it is phasing I can’t be sure.

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in reply to: Problematic Intonation LASS Sords #52669

Thanks for your help.

Actually there was a problem up my end (oooo matron)….I actually had the C desks loaded up twice in different kontakt instruments….not quite sure why. It’s the C desks that are at issue, and switching one of them to the B desks (so that B and C) were playing together improved things enormously.

I don’t think it was phasing – for one thing the mix from each instrument bank is different, but also it only effects one or two notes. I just wish that I could actaully fix this in kontakt. But there is no way to do this.

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in reply to: LASS LS – Cellos Basses bumping on transition. #44144

Oh that’s great – so it isn’t just me then.

FWIW – the B desks are much better.

One last little thing – the Bb above middle C in the cellos (A desk still) at CC1 = 25-40 or so is a little sour. Again the B desks are fine.

Also WRT the change in timbre in the basses is probably not a big problem generally but the change in level is. Thanks for looking into this.

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in reply to: LASS ARC and Program Changes #39331

That’s really great to hear Sebastian. You should consider being able to convert other types of events rather than program changes if it is possible, since you are effectively doing that to make KS work. For example, were I starting out I would be trying to use meta events such as articulation and dynamic markings in logic to switch articulations. It’s easy to do once the work is done. I am way not a fan of key switching – it’s a horrible way to work….

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in reply to: LASS ARC and Program Changes #39329

I do the the program change to KS trick for vienna instruments. It’s fiddly making sure that the numeric value of the note matches up with the musical one, but other than that it looks like this screen shot.

The ‘fixed’ number 21 is just an artbitrary non-zero number.

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in reply to: LASS ARC and Program Changes #39327

i’ll have a look there then, but gee – I do need this to be possible. What might be possible is to use transform objects either in logic or plogue to convert program changes to key switches. But it’s a terrible faff, it would be a shame and a pain….

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in reply to: LASS Sord Quirks #37022

Hi gvalasek,

Only now spotted your post – I should visit here more often, or check the ‘notify’ button.

Just to mention, although I am a reasonable keyboard player, when I composer I compose ‘old school’, and step-time everything as if I were writing with paper and pencil. I actually have to manually add the overlaps to get the legato.

There aren’t too many who work this way I know, but I find it faster in the main. In fact my keyboard is to the side of the workstation in a not terribly convenient position….

For me anyway, it was simply a matter of being a little more careful and understanding how the library worked. Definitely pilot-error on this one.

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in reply to: legato intermittently disabled #37259

Yes I have encountered this problem from time to time with General LASS. The only solution I found was to reload the patch, or reboot the whole template. I think it is a Kontakt problem.

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in reply to: LASS Sord Quirks #37017

Damn – just lost my post.

I just found a spot that could do with optimization in tuning: Cellos E3. One of the repetitions is worse than the other, but they both seem pretty flat to me. It’s really noticeable against an A3. I’ve tuned those notes and it has improved matters but I wouldn’t rule out the A being sharp, although the A ‘sounds’ right. Cellos can be deceptive in that range sounding flat when they are in fact sharp and so on.

Here is my final version with the transitions super smooth. Andrew was right: the use CC83 can really make the slower transitions sound more natural by changing their speed. It’s ingenious programming.

The Ballroom v3

Another thing I have noticed is that these guys like slightly less ER reverb than does the regular library. I found trying to lift the air a bit but have a little more main reverb brings out the sord-ness (for want of a better word). I am really loving this library.

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in reply to: LASS Sord Quirks #37015

There probably is some spots here and there that need optimisation – for example tuning where I have noticed a few things too. But you would expect that with a new release. It’s a question of trying to eliminate the pilot error element and narrowing down the things that have slipped through beta-testing. I am sure Andrew would agree that it would be extremely useful to have details of anything specific if he is to hope to get anything fixed for a maintenance release….

The thing with AA is that it has to decide whether or not 2 simultaneous notes are a transition or a chord. So we need to experiment with the slop detect and the chord MS and/or turning AA off and on. AA is pretty amazing when it works but I think it will take a little skill to drive it properly.

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in reply to: LASS Sord Quirks #37013

AHHH!!!

I figured out what was causing the ‘bumping’ that was perplexing me.

It was a problem with my overlaps and autoarranger. Once I turned off Auto arranger or modifed the overlaps I got smoother – much smoother note connections. I will post up a version 3 tomorrow – I still have a few things I need to get on top of.

I know that autoarranger can be turned off using cc30 and I think that if you load up autoarranger then it would probably be generally best to turn it off and only turn it on when you need it, because non-autoarranger is much more tolerant of programming style. It is awesome when it works – and probably the problems I encountered would have become obvious if you were developing an arrangement from scratch, but in my situation all I could tell was that something wasn’t right.

In any case this for the moment seems to have been a completely pilot error problem.

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in reply to: LASS Sord Quirks #37011

Thanks guys. I was aware of it, but i haven’t tried it yet.

I had a go at mixing LS with my old sord patches from miroslav and siedlecek to fairly good effect. I think I miss something though. I think ultimately I will just go for LS on its own.

The Ballroom v2

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in reply to: LASS Sord Quirks #37008

ahh! i see, so you can change the setting for the leg, port and gliss rather than having a completely different patch. nice.

ok well, i was just using the default as you say. stay tuned for some midi files.

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in reply to: LASS Sord Quirks #37006

Also.. let me know if you loaded DFD, Speed pr Speed Lt versions of the offending transitions… OR… are they all leg and not port or gliss?

I am slightly confused by this. I don’t have any choice when loading the AA multis. It was whatever those patches were. I’ll double check, but they were definitely LPG, but I don’t know whether they were anything listed above. You are making me think I have missed something….

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in reply to: LASS Sord Quirks #37001

Andrew, how about I send you some midi cut outs of bits that seem to be most affected? I have time to do this at the moment, so I could give you a very clear report. I think I still have your email address from a while back – no need to repost if you would like me to do this.

I loaded the standard AA patches and didn’t change the dfd settings at all. I am streaming from an SSD so it shouldn’t be a problem. From a technical point of view everything worked absolutely perfectly as far as I could tell.

I used the violins LPG 3 voices AA patches. Tomorrow I am going to have a go with the full mix patches.

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